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Meme: First thing I do after installing (insert your distro here)

Obviously, my distro is Fedora, but for those of you who might choose something else, let’s play along.

This meme comes from Valent Turkovic’s blog post a few days ago, so I thought I’d share mine.

$ su -c 'yum install nautilus-open-terminal'

This enables me to right click on the desktop and click ‘Open in Terminal’. This is much better than choosing ‘Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal’, which in my opinion is a big pain in the ass!

While it used to open in the user’s home directory, now it opens in their Desktop.  Not sure of the benefit for that, but I’m glad it’s still around.

Cheers,

Herlo

FUDCon Friday: A very, very, very long day - quite fun!

Got to FUDCon today after a nice semi-sleepy red-eye flight.  I was surprisingly awake for a person who has had less than 3 hours of sleep in the last 24+ hours.  As I arrived, following Max’s instructions to the Hyne’s Convention Center, an announcement.  The spins hackfest was beginning.

I quickly grabbed some coffee and an apple and headed in after Max.  Little did I know how great this fest was going to be, all 4+ hours of it.  After a good list of goals, Max handed control over to Mo and off we went.

Discussion surrounded three main stories, one for a user wanting to download a spin, one desiring to submit a spin and one for reviewers of spins.  As it turns out, developing stories for the first two were pretty easy, and just before 11, we had a good idea of how to implement applications for these two users.

However, the third story, the one for reviewing.  Yeah, that one.  Well, I guess I just need to ask one hard question.  The question I had was a simple one, but the answer is apparently much more complex, including both technical and legal questions about third-party distributions.  And while it seems like a simple distinction, I brought this upon myself, uncovering a discussion that has been going on for 2+ years now.

The biggest problem is for those spins that include software not in the fedora repositories.  How do we treat these spins?  The discussion ended up being that while hosting these spins might not be feasible, we’d like to have a way to market the spins as built on Fedora or something similar. It seems that this is a good choice, but it needs to go through legal.

After an hour long discussion about these details (which I caused), we tabled it and came up with a good list of tasks to get the project started.  Thanks to Ian Weller, there’s a good wiki page covering much of this discussion.  In fact, I have a couple of tasks to complete this week.

At the end of the day, I ended up with some Red Hat folks at Legal Sea Foods, good wine, great company.  If I wasn’t so tired, I’d have stayed much longer.  Good times…

Tomorrow’s FUDCon barcamp looks to be pretty interesting.  I plan to attend the video tools, the getting contributors and bug triage.  In addition, there will probably be a couple that will come up tomorrow morning, so we’ll se how it goes.

Cheers,

Herlo

Utah Fedora/Ubuntu Linux Release Party Outtakes

Well, usually I forget to take pictures, because either A) I forget my camera [I brought it this time] or 2) I get wrapped up in the event and forget to bring it with me.  But this release party, I plain just forgot to charge my batteries for my camera, oops!

Fortunately, I was able to snap a few pictures with some of the spare, also not fully-charged, batteries I did have on hand.  However, others took many pictures and I’ve listed them below.

To summarize the party, much celebration was had with foosball, a chess game on one of the largest chess boards around, video games, air hockey and much more was provided by CodeGreene.  The FedoraProject and Utah Open Source sponsored the food and prizes.  If you’ve never had a Chipotle burrito, they are the best burritos around.

I was able to spend time with about 5-7 people myself sharing the Preview Release of Fedora 9 (codename Sulphur) including two who had never had previous success with Fedora or Linux in general.  It was very satisfying to see things work for them.

The Ubuntu folks were there in strength as well.  The Hardy Heron (8.04) CDs were being passed out, while we Fedoran’s provided LiveUSB versions.  I even saw people taking advantage and obtaining both!  Its great to see communities come together and celebrate together.

The party continued at Salt Lake Pizza & Pasta for another couple hours.  Lot’s of talk about the releases, upcoming events, and general mayhem took place including having Heartsbane shoot beer through his nose when I swore at him!

All in all, quite a successful evening and I look forward to helping others in November at our next release party.

Cheers,

Herlo

UPDATE: Another 70+ pictures have been added, check them out!

Distro Comparison: openSUSE 10.3 first impressions

I don’t know if I can last an entire week with openSUSE 10.3. I can’t believe I even thought it possible. I am jonesing for Fedora right now, even though any other distro would probably do…

What’s wrong with SUSE you ask? Just about EVERYTHING! I’m not comfortable at all in this rancid environment. It sucks the life right out of you. I hope some SUSE people come running to save me from this turmoil I feel as I currently hate using this distro. Here’s my first impressions: (beware, the list is rather long)

GOOD

The items below are positives and the openSUSE team deserves credit for all of their hard work in these areas.

  • Wireless works (+1)
    • My Intel wireless card from my T60p is recognized and associates with my access points
  • The nautilus-open-terminal package is enabled by default (+2)
    • This is the right-click on desktop –> Terminal option, (something severely lacking in fedora and not easily installed in a kickstart)
    • Having this feature, its very simple to get started with the terminal which is definitely needed for the power user in me
  • Install allowed me to choose not to use their grub (0) [while this is nice, if I had installed their grub, it would have wiped out my fedora grub components]
  • zypper is much improved over the previous rug (10.1) tool (+1)
    • still needs work though
    • easy to add repos compared with fedora
      • packagekit can solve much of the incontinuity in fedora
      • though its nice to have a simple gui to add repos, knowing which repos is still a bit of an exercise in futility.

Positive Score: +4

BAD

Whle there is some good in openSUSE, its apparent to me that there is much to be improved.  As noted below, many more things are in need of improvement, to put it nicely.

  • The install takes much longer than necessary (-3)
    • Still uses ugly YAST text user interface
      • YAST didn’t recognize my video driver, but could have just used the VESA driver for the gui install
    • Asks too many questions about details that could easily be simpler
    • Did not work well with other OSes (GRUB)
      • YAST installer wanted to overwrite my fedora GRUB configuration, shouldn’t Linux play well with each other in this sense?
  • One-click install is more like 10-click (-1)
    • From opensuse.org, you can do what is called a “one-click install”, and about 8-10 clicks later its installed. If its one-click, its should be one (maybe two) clicks total.
  • The initial GNOME config of openSUSE is too Windows-like (-1)
    • If I wanted my Linux desktop to look like Windows, I’d use KDE (or even run Windows)
    • It has only one bar, and at the bottom, not enough room for status apps
    • I had to add workspaces as only one was provided by default, that seems limiting
  • bluez-gnome doesn’t have hidd or any sort of recognition for my bluetooth mouse (or anyone’s bluetooth mouse, for that matter) (-2)
  • The bash prompt is ugly - (0)
    • This one is a personal preference, but its hard to tell when I am the root user and when I am not. As such, I will modify my .bashrc and fix the PS1 value
  • The wireless driver for my T60p is not the new iwl3945, but the ipw3945 proprietary from intel - (-1)
    • The open driver has been out for quite some time
    • Proprietary codecs were not easy to find, nor install (0)
      • Fedora doesn’t make this simple either really.  Yet, when I found them in Fedora they worked first try, gstreamer failed miserably several times in openSUSE
      • an attempt at a codec buddy like tool was made, but doesn’t work…
    • zypper does not inform you of the dependencies needed to install even though it reports how much it will download (-1)
      • I want to know what packages I’ll be installing before I install them

    Negative Score: -9

    Total score for day 1:  -5 OOPS - that’s not good!

    To be honest, I think I’m being very generous in some of the points I’m giving.  OpenSUSE makes it very difficult for my lifestyle so far.  I’m not sure what they can do with 10.3 to make it better, but I’d like to hear comments and suggestions on ways to help.

    I’m sure hoping that day two will be better.  I’m already starting my list and will be testing such things as; video, development, lvm, raid, kvm/xen virtualization and much, much more.  As I continue to suffer through this bluetoothless mouse world openSUSE has created for me.

    Cheers until tomorrow,

    Herlo

    A New Series: Distro Comparisons, with Flair!

    Its been a little couple weeks since I posted anything useful in my Program of the Week (POW) series. And while I still plan to keep that up in the near future, I am going to be doing a new series, Distro Comparisons, with Flare!

    My plan is to install the other two major distros of Linux (OpenSUSE and Ubuntu) and compare them with Fedora, my favorite distribution. I’ll be comparing them on installation, features, tools and any other thing that I regularly use in my day-to-day life. Once the distros are all installed (in a triple-boot, no less), I’ll be keeping each one for a week at a time over the next few months.

    Over each week, I’ll write down things that are awesome, good, bearable, or just plain bug me, and each will get a score. To be fair, I’ll make sure to rank them with a maximum of +5 and a minimum of -5. Its possible that a negative score can happen, but I expect that this will not be the case for any of the distros.

    Anyway, wish me luck on my triple-boot installs and my future blogging with these comparisons. I also hope this will enlighten others about the options available in each of the distros and encourage the developers to continue to improve the usability and functionality of their particular distribution.

    Tonight, I’ll be installing and setting up OpenSUSE 10.3 and running it for the next week. During the holidays, I’ll be taking a bit of a break, so blogging might be a bit slower. In early January, I’ll install Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) as well. See you all on the flip side.

    Cheers,

    Herlo

    POW: Bluetooth Improvements in Fedora 8

    The POW is going to be the improvements made in the Bluetooth functionality in Fedora 8. I’m actually quite impressed with it as its been a bit of a challenge to keep my little mouse connected in the past.

    Fedora 8 provides a new extended technology with its bluez-gnome package. In fact, the simplicity of it is that I only have to be able to click and approve a new device.

    When I first turn on my bluetooth mouse and start to move it around, it doesn’t work, but up in the top right hand corner of my GNOME desktop is the bluetooth manager. It has a message for me:

    bluetooth-authorize.png

    The message indicates a click to authorize the device, namely the bluetooth mouse. (One note here, I was originally unable to use my touchpad, so I had to resort to other tactics [not pretty] to enable my mouse. Probably ought to have some other options available instead of clicking.)

    Clicking on the notification window above brings me to an authorization window.

    bluetooth3.png

    At this point, authorization is quite simple. Click yes for a one time authorization of the mouse (Note the Bluetooth Travel Mouse indicated in the description), and to authorize it more permanently, choose Always Grant Access.

    That’s it. My Bluetooth mouse is now enabled and working. I’d say this is much friendlier than what I used to have to do, including running hidd –connect <bluetooth id> after pressing the little connect button on the bottom of the mouse. This is sure nice now!

    Its possible, that at some point, disconnecting the device might be necessary. To do this, right-click on the nice little Bluetooth logo at the top right of your screen.

    bluetooth5.png

    Choose Preferences. Up pops the Bluetooth Preferences window. From this window, three tabs are available. In the first (and also selected) tab, there is a section at the bottom of the window which lists the devices that are currently bonded and/or trusted. Choose the device from the list and then the appropriate action. The choices are Disconnect, Trust or Delete.

    bluetooth4.png

    In addition to just configuring your devices, it appears it might be possible to do things like Bluetooth DUN with a Treo, or enable data synchronization between laptops. One thing I’ve always wanted to try is to get my bluetooth headset working so I could do Skype or Asterisk phone calls through my headset, to my computer and out through the service.

    Cheers,

    Herlo

    Werewolf (Fedora 8) Upgrade in 3 Easy Steps Using yum

    Recently, there was a request in one of my comments on this post. The request was for an easy way to upgrade from Fedora 7 to Fedora 8. So I took this on as a bit of a challenge. I feel pretty comfortable with yum and I thought it would be a good and easy task.

    A bit of warning here, make sure your current Moonshine ( Fedora 7 ) release is update by running yum update. Also, it is recommended that backups be made of files being modified. If you don’t backup the file, it may be impossible to fix in the future. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

    Let’s upgrade Moonshine ( Fedora 7 ) to Werewolf ( Fedora 8 ) in three easy steps:

    First things first, lets print out some version info:

    $ cat /etc/*release
    Fedora release 7 (Moonshine)
    Fedora release 7 (Moonshine)
    $ uname -r
    2.6.23.1-21.fc7

    Its easy to tell that this machine is indeed using Moonshine ( Fedora 7 ), so let’s upgrade!

    Step 1 - Modify the yum repo files

    Located in /etc/yum.repos.d directory are where the yum repository files are stored. We need to modify one line so that yum will know where to look:

    $ su -
    # vim /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo

    Find the first line that starts:

    mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch

    and change it:

    mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-8&arch=$basearch

    What changed? Well, the $releasever value is the current value for our version of fedora, in this case 7. By changing it to 8, it’ll load the correct repositories for Werewolf (F8) instead of Moonshine (F7). Save the file, and now we’re ready to move onto the next step.

    Step 1 (Alternate)

    Since posting this, I’ve learned that another option is available. To update the repositories, its possible to install an rpm to accomplish the same as above and it won’t require Step 3.

    Choose your mirror from http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org. I picked University of Oregon’s site because it was close to me.

    # rpm -Uvh \
    ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Everything/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-*.rpm

    Your ftp/http line here may be different, that is fine. This command installs the updated repositories for Werewolf ( Fedora 8 )

    Step 2 - Upgrade

    In this step, we just need to run (as root):

    # yum update
    fedora               100% |===============| 2.1 kB   00:00
    primary.sqlite.bz2   100% |===============| 4.9 MB   00:03
    Setting up Update Process
    Resolving Dependencies
    .. snip ..

    A few prompts will appear, after the repository data is loaded, a list of several hundred megs (possibly a gigabyte or more) of packages will be ready to install. This is the moment of truth.

    Transaction Summary
    ============================
    Install     88 Package(s)
    Update     836 Package(s)
    Remove       1 Package(s)
    
    Total download size: 1.0 G
    Is this ok [y/N]:

    Start the download of over 800 packages (in my case) and install and update your system. If you feel a bit of trepidation, I concur. Its still exciting though, isn’t it?

    Is this ok [y/N]: y

    Now aren’t you excited! In about 30-45 minutes, you’ll have a newly upgraded Werewolf ( Fedora 8 ).

    Downloading Packages:
    orca-2.20.0.1-1. 100% |=========================| 1.5 MB    00:01
    .. snip ..

    Step 3 - Cleanup and Reboot

    Welcome to your new Werewolf. Treat it wisely. First things first though, we need to clean up our editing from step 1:

    # vim /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo

    Find the first line that starts:

    mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-8&arch=$basearch

    and change it:

    mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch

    Save the file, or if you prefer, copy the backup you made over the modified repo file.

    In addition, there are some items that aren’t in Fedora 8 the same way they were in Fedora 7. For these, read this guide. I didn’t have these problems myself, ymmv.

    To get the newly updated kernel and all the new goodness of Werewolf, a reboot is necessary. Enjoy your new Lycanthrope on the flip side.

    Cheers,

    Herlo

    POW: Codec Buddy

    This week’s Program of the Week is a bit ahead of its release. The package is Codec Buddy, and is currently slated for release in Fedora 8 tomorrow.

    Codec Buddy, with a little help from the Fedora and Fluendo development teams has grown into something that could be great. I see Codec Buddy really helping those who want to use and play non-free media sources from within Fedora. If you are currently running rawhide, you probably already know about this, but very soon, many other people will start to understand how Codec Buddy works as well.

    One of the goals of the Fedora Project is to be free of any proprietary software. Though I don’t see that many people using Fedora without at least a few proprietary components, media codecs, drivers, etc. Maybe one day…we can always hope.

    To that end, I am a big media buff. I regularly watch TV shows and movies that use proprietary codecs. As an example, most people don’t realize that using the reverse engineered DVD encoding provided by DVD Jon could be considered illegal. Fedora doesn’t want to be encumbered by these risks, and truthfully, I don’t blame them one bit. Considering that my backlog of mp3s and DVD rips will require an additional bit of software not normally included with Fedora, I think this is a great software solution. Give the user what they want without compromising the integrity of the project.

    Codec Buddy is provided to help the average Joe understand the world of media formats. Its job was originally to provide a short description of why Fedora doesn’t include this in its distribution. Then point to where one might find more information about these formats. Codec Buddy has been altered a little, but attempts to accomplish the same thing using the Fluendo website.

    Fluendo is the company that employs many of the individuals that work on the gstreamer project. Its quite a noble project, providing media codecs (installable formats) for many of the audio and video we like to use every day. Its great to have open source companies like Fluendo helping open source grow.

    Codec Buddy works by launching a small application when someone tries to access a media codec not currently on the system. For instance, I’ve attempted to play a show I’ve downloaded.

    Launch Totem

    Opening Totem

    Open the file

    Opening a media file

    Start the video

    Start the video

    As the video attempts to play, a prompt appears, indicating the media isn’t supported. Codec buddy then provides a few options to enable playback for this particular media format.

    Choose your codec wisely, young padawan

    The available items are MP3 Audio Decoder, MPEG Playback Bundle and MPEG4 Part 2 Video Decoder. By default only the MP3 Audio Decoder, which is also the only codec that will be installed without payment, is checked. The other two codecs are available for a small fee, which helps Fluendo to provide these codecs.

    Clicking the “Get Selected” button will immediately start the download of the MP3 Audio Decoder (if it was selected).

    Downloading the MP3 Codec

    A license agreement then appears, make sure to read this and if you agree, click Accept.

    Agreement

    Once the agreement is complete, its time to purchase the remaining codecs. Choose Start Web Browser and in a few moments, the Fluendo website should appear. This should allow you to purchase the remaining codecs needed for the video I want to watch.

    Open Web Browser

    The Fluendo website has a good list of available codecs beyond the choices available in Codec Buddy.

    Fluendo website

    The purchase will seem similar to many others on the web, add things to the cart, and pay.

    Fluendo is a good start. I’m sure there will be many people interested in purchasing these codecs here. However, I believe however, that the biggest problem is that most people can get these codecs for free on Windows, Mac and even other Linux distributions. So far, the thing I feel is missing here is the explanation for why charge for these codecs and who benefits.

    Fluendo is a great resource and provides some kick-ass codecs. If there is no explanation as to why we need to pay for something that one can get for free. Potential customers who don’t understand the reasoning behind it might go elsewhere, or worse even, choose another distro or operating system.

    I love fedora for the freedom it gives me to choose my path. I love fedora for its focus on making sure things are free and open, both monetarily and in liberty. I love fedora for trying things like Codec Buddy, I want it to succeed. I hope that with a few suggestions, both fedora and Fluendo can make Codec Buddy the informational tool that it was originally intended.

    Cheers,

    Herlo

    Thoughts on the Fedora Upgrade - Part 1

    So its been a whole two days since I upgraded to Werewolf. I love it! Most everything works out of the box (OOTB), wireless, bluetooth, even suspend/resume seem to be possible for the first time!

    But one of the oddities I encountered while upgrading was the names of the packages. Mind you, this is just my twisted mind being interested in some of the funny odd or strange package names I found while the yum upgrade was taking place.

    So here’s the list anyway, with a short description of each. Enjoy:

    • gwenhywfar - A multi-platform helper library for networking and security applications and libraries.
    • meanwhile - Lotus Sametime session functionality.
    • neon - An HTTP and WebDAV client library.
    • coolkey - Linux Driver support for the CoolKey and CAC products.
    • rarian - Designed as a replacement for scrollkeeper; A documentation meta-data library.
    • openjade - An implementation of the ISO/IEC 10179:1996 standard DSSSL.
    • sox - (Sound eXchange) is a sound file format converter.
    • cadaver - A command-line WebDAV client.
    • booty - Small python library for use with bootloader configuration.
    • orca - A flexible, extensible, and powerful assistive technology.
    • zenity - Lets you display Gtk+ dialog boxes from the command line and through shell scripts.
    • eog - Eye of GNOME (EOG) is an image viewer.
    • gok - Enables users to control their computer without relying on a standard keyboard or mouse, leveraging GNOME’s accessibility framework
    • devilspie - A window-matching utility.*

    This information was gathered using the command ‘rpm -qi <packagename>’.  This provided enough information to help understand at least the basics of each of these packages and whether to consider using them in the future.

    The packages in italics above are packages that I consider interesting, and I plan to attempt to blog about each of them in turn as part of my POW series.

    The devilspie package has a * which means that I’ve used this program before.  I quite enjoyed using the Devil’s Pie, and plan to take a look at it again in Fedora 8 as the previous package had some real limitations and lacked needed flexibility.

    Please watch for the upcoming articles on these utilities.  Also, if there are packages that you found interesting during your upgrade, please comment and let me know what they are so I can learn and possibly use them as well.

    Cheers,

    Herlo

    Upgraded! Fedora 8 (Werewolf) is installed!

    And so the saga continues!

    Transaction Summary
    =============================================================================
    Install     98 Package(s)
    Update    1092 Package(s)
    Remove       2 Package(s)
    
    Total download size: 1.3 G
    Is this ok [y/N]: y

    Resulted in:

    $ cat /etc/*release
    Fedora release 8 (Werewolf)
    Fedora release 8 (Werewolf)
    Fedora release 8 (Werewolf)

    I did have a few problems, mostly things that were from non-fedora repositories. Once I cleared those up, all went well. Fedora 8 is beautiful.

    A couple things to note. My ATI drivers seemed to stay in place and as horrible as ever for dual displays. I’m going to be trying xrandr as soon as I can find the open ATI drivers. Another is that I love to use vlc, but its in the livna repository and currently requires python 2.4, but Werewolf uses python 2.5. I guess I’ll have to get the src.rpm and rebuild it with python 2.5 as the requirement. I also noted that my mouse pad is currently not working, I’ll have to find out why the synaptics drivers stopped working.

    Update: I’ve decided it might be useful to at least include a couple cool pictures of the new theme, so here you go.

    fedora8-background.png fedora8-gimp.png fedora8-rsyslogviewer.png

    Cheers,

    Clint

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