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		<title>FUDCon Friday: A very, very, very long day &#8211; quite fun!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Got to FUDCon today after a nice semi-sleepy red-eye flight.  I was surprisingly awake for a person who has had less than 3 hours of sleep in the last 24+ hours.  As I arrived, following Max&#8217;s instructions to the Hyne&#8217;s Convention Center, an announcement.  The spins hackfest was beginning. I quickly grabbed some coffee and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got to FUDCon today after a nice semi-sleepy red-eye flight.  I was surprisingly awake for a person who has had less than 3 hours of sleep in the last 24+ hours.  As I arrived, following Max&#8217;s instructions to the Hyne&#8217;s Convention Center, an announcement.  The spins hackfest was beginning.</p>
<p>I quickly grabbed some coffee and an apple and headed in after Max.  Little did I know how great this fest was going to be, all 4+ hours of it.  After a good list of goals, Max handed control over to Mo and off we went.</p>
<p>Discussion surrounded three main stories, one for a user wanting to download a spin, one desiring to submit a spin and one for reviewers of spins.  As it turns out, developing stories for the first two were pretty easy, and just before 11, we had a good idea of how to implement applications for these two users.</p>
<p>However, the third story, the one for reviewing.  Yeah, that one.  Well, I guess I just need to ask one hard question.  The question I had was a simple one, but the answer is apparently much more complex, including both technical and legal questions about third-party distributions.  And while it seems like a simple distinction, I brought this upon myself, uncovering a discussion that has been going on for 2+ years now.</p>
<p>The biggest problem is for those spins that include software <strong>not</strong> in the fedora repositories.  How do we treat these spins?  The discussion ended up being that while hosting these spins might not be feasible, we&#8217;d like to have a way to market the spins as built on Fedora or something similar. It seems that this is a good choice, but it needs to go through legal.</p>
<p>After an hour long discussion about these details (which I caused), we tabled it and came up with a good list of tasks to get the project started.  Thanks to Ian Weller, there&#8217;s a <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_Hackfest_summary" target="_blank">good wiki page</a> covering much of this discussion.  In fact, I have a couple of <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_Hackfest_summary#Tasks" target="_blank">tasks</a> to complete this week.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, I ended up with some Red Hat folks at Legal Sea Foods, good wine, great company.  If I wasn&#8217;t so tired, I&#8217;d have stayed much longer.  Good times&#8230;</p>
<p>Tomorrow&#8217;s FUDCon barcamp looks to be pretty interesting.  I plan to attend the video tools, the getting contributors and bug triage.  In addition, there will probably be a couple that will come up tomorrow morning, so we&#8217;ll se how it goes.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Herlo</p>
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